10 Surprising Reasons Our Kids LEAVE Church (Their title not mine)

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    I found this over at churchleaders.com.   Mark Solas talks about the 10 surprising reasons kids are leaving the church.  As someone who worked with kids and youth I find some of this to be spot on.  There are however a few things that I find hard to believe the church sees as “surprising” reasons for kids to leave.  This list ends with a command, “We’ve failed God and we’ve failed our kids. Don’t let another kid walk out the door without being confronted with the full weight of the law, and the full freedom in the gospel.”    That command makes me wary.  I know for me, no matter how much grace it was wrapped in, or freedom it promised, the full weight of the law was something I was no longer willing to embrace.  So I wonder exactly how they plan on selling both to kids? SG

    The facts:
    The statistics are jaw-droppingly horrific: 70 percent of youth stop attending church when they graduate from high school. Nearly a decade later, about half return to church.
    Half.
    Let that sink in.
    There’s no easy way to say this: The American Evangelical church has lost, is losing, and will almost certainly continue to lose OUR YOUTH.
    For all the talk of “our greatest resource,” “our treasure,” and the multi million dollar Dave and Buster’s/Starbucks knockoffs we build and fill with black walls and wailing rock bands … the church has failed them.
    Miserably.

    The Top 10 Reasons We’re Losing our Youth:

    10. The Church is “Relevant.”

    You didn’t misread that, I didn’t say irrelevant, I said RELEVANT.
    We’ve taken a historic, 2,000-year-old faith, dressed it in plaid and skinny jeans and tried to sell it as “cool” to our kids. It’s not cool. It’s not modern. What we’re packaging is a cheap knockoff of the world we’re called to evangelize to.

    As the quote says, “When the ship is in the ocean, everything’s fine. When the ocean gets into the ship, you’re in trouble.”
    I’m not ranting about “worldliness” as some pietistic bogeyman, I’m talking about the fact that we yawn at a five-minute biblical text, but almost trip over ourselves fawning over a minor celebrity or athlete who makes any vague reference to being a Christian.
    We’re like a fawning wanna-be just hoping the world will think we’re cool too, you know, just like you guys!

    Our kids meet the real world and our “look, we’re cool like you” posing is mocked. In our effort to be “like them” we’ve become less of who we actually are. The middle-aged pastor trying to look like his 20-something audience isn’t relevant and the minute you aim to be “authentic,” you’re no longer authentic! 

    9. They never attended church to begin with.

    From a Noah’s Ark themed nursery, to jumbotron summer-campish kids church, to pizza parties and rock concerts, many evangelical youth have been coddled in a not-quite-church, but not-quite-world hothouse. They’ve never sat on a pew between a set of new parents with a fussy baby and a senior citizen on an oxygen tank.
    They don’t see the full timeline of the gospel for every season of life. Instead, we’ve dumbed down the message, pumped up the volume and act surprised when …

    8. They get smart.

    It’s not that our students “got smarter” when they left home, rather someone actually treated them as intelligent. Rather than dumbing down the message, the agnostics and atheists treat our youth as intelligent and challenge their intellect with “deep thoughts” of question and doubt.

    Many of these “doubts” have been answered, in great depth, over the centuries of our faith. However …

    7. You sent them out unarmed.

    Let’s just be honest, most of our churches are sending youth into the world embarrassingly ignorant of our faith. How could we not?
    We’ve jettisoned catechesis, sold them on “deeds not creeds,” and encouraged them to start the quest to find “God’s plan for their life.”
    Yes, I know your church has a “What we believe” page, but is that actually being taught and reinforced from the pulpit? I’ve met evangelical church leaders (“Pastors”) who didn’t know the difference between justification and sanctification. I’ve met large church board members who didn’t understand the atonement. When we choose leaders based upon their ability to draw and lead rather than to accurately teach the faith, well, they don’t teach the faith.
    Surprised? And instead of the orthodox, historic faith …

    6. You gave them hand-me-downs.

    You’ve tried your best to pass along the internal/subjective faith that you “feel.” You really, really, really want them to “feel” it too.
    But we’ve never been called to evangelize our feelings. You can’t hand down this type of subjective faith.
    With nothing solid to hang their faith upon, with no historic creed to tie them to centuries of history, without the physical elements of bread, wine and water, their faith is in their subjective feelings, and when faced with other ways to “feel” uplifted at college, the church loses out to things with much greater appeal to our human nature.
    And they find it in …

    5. Community.

    Have you noticed this word is everywhere in the church since the seeker sensitive and church growth movements came onto the scene? (There’s a reason and a driving philosophy behind it which is outside of the scope of this blog.)

    When our kids leave home, they leave the manufactured community they’ve lived in for nearly their entire lives. With their faith as something they “do” in community, they soon find that they can experience this “life change” and “life improvement” in “community” in many different contexts.
    So, they left the church and …

    4. They found better feelings.

    Rather than an external, objective, historical faith, we’ve given our youth an internal, subjective faith.

    The evangelical church isn’t catechizing or teaching our kids the fundamentals of the faith, we’re simply encouraging them to “be nice” and “love Jesus.” When they leave home, they realize that they can be “spiritually fulfilled” and get the same subjective self-improvement principles (and warm fuzzies) from the latest life-coach or from spending time with friends or volunteering at a shelter.

    And they can be truly authentic, and they jump at the chance because …

    3. They got tired of pretending.

    In the “best life now,” “Every day a Friday” world of evangelicals, there’s little room for depression, struggle or doubt. Turn that frown upside down, or move along.

    Kids who are fed a steady diet of sermons aimed at removing anything (or anyone) who doesn’t serve “God’s great plan for your life” has forced them to smile and, as the old song encouraged them, be “hap-hap-happy all the time.” Our kids are smart, often much smarter than we give them credit for. So they trumpet the message I hear a lot from these kids. “The church is full of hypocrites.” Why?
    Even though they have never been given the categories of law and gospel …

    2. They know the truth.

    They can’t do it. They know it. All that “be nice” moralism they’ve been taught? The Bible has a word for it: Law. And that’s what we’ve fed them, undiluted, since we dropped them off at the Noah’s Ark playland: Do/Don’t Do.

    As they get older it becomes “Good Kids do/don’t” and as adults, “Do this for a better life”. The gospel appears briefly as another “do” to “get saved.”

    But their diet is Law, and scripture tells us that the law condemns us. So that smiling, upbeat “Love God and Love People” vision statement?

    Yeah, you’ve just condemned the youth with it. Nice, huh?

    They either think that they’re “good people” since they don’t “do” any of the stuff their denomination teaches against (drink, smoke, dance, watch R rated movies), or they realize that they don’t meet Jesus’ own words of what is required. There’s no rest in this law, only a treadmill of works they know they aren’t able to meet.

    So, either way, they walk away from the church because …

    1. They don’t need it.

    Our kids are smart. They picked up on the message we unwittingly taught. If church is simply a place to learn life application principals to achieve a better life in community … you don’t need a crucified Jesus for that.

    Why would they get up early on a Sunday and watch a cheap knockoff of the entertainment venue they went to the night before? The middle-aged pastor trying desperately to be “relevant” to them would be a comical cliché if the effect weren’t so devastating.

    As we jettisoned the gospel, our students were never hit with the full impact of the law, their sin before God, and their desperate need for the atoning work of Christ. Now THAT is relevant, THAT is authentic, and

    THAT is something the world cannot offer.
    We’ve traded a historic, objective, faithful gospel based on God’s graciousness toward us for a modern, subjective, pragmatic gospel based upon achieving our goal by following life strategies. Rather than being faithful to the foolish simplicity of the gospel of the cross, we’ve set our goal on being “successful” in growing crowds with this gospel of glory.

    Our kids leave because we have failed to deliver to them the faith “delivered once for all” to the church.

    I’m not against entertaining our youth, or even jumbotrons or pizza parties (though I probably am against middle-aged guys trying to wear skinny jeans) … it’s just that the one thing, the MAIN thing we’ve been tasked with? We’re failing.

    We’ve failed God and we’ve failed our kids. Don’t let another kid walk out the door without being confronted with the full weight of the law, and the full freedom in the gospel.  

    #9128
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    As we jettisoned the gospel, our students were never hit with the full impact of the law, their sin before God, and their desperate need for the atoning work of Christ. Now THAT is relevant, THAT is authentic, and
    THAT is something the world cannot offer.We’ve traded a historic, objective, faithful gospel based on God’s graciousness toward us for a modern, subjective, pragmatic gospel based upon achieving our goal by following life strategies. Rather than being faithful to the foolish simplicity of the gospel of the cross, we’ve set our goal on being “successful” in growing crowds with this gospel of glory.
    Our kids leave because we have failed to deliver to them the faith “delivered once for all” to the church.

    No, the “world” can offer choices..the world can offer opportunities to use their minds, and chances to actually learn from their mistakes and grow. See, I not only used to be a youth in a group trying to be “hip” and “relevant”..I also used to work with youth when I was in my 20’s, and the thing is, most of those kids just wanted to be allowed to think and act..and many of them were very conflicted with basically being told how to think and act. Some of them actually called bullshit and walked out. It wouldn’t have mattered if all of us “leaders” were dressed cool or not. “The full weight of the law..and reality of their sin” yeah, that’s the big thing I can’t get over..You can have all the dance parties you want to, or you can just tell them the “truth”, but if you put a lead ball inside a fluffy exterior and throw it at someone, it’s gonna hurt. The thing is, the newer generations are starting to say, heyyy..wait a minute..there’s a lead ball in there! Instead of getting on their knees and feeling bad about their “sins”. By the way, the weight of the lead ball goes in direct contradiction to Jesus saying his burden was light. Some of my youth in that group pointed this out to me one day..and I couldn’t disagree..but I also couldn’t agree because I was also being told how to think and act. (I can’t make it stop italicizing my words..wow..okay!) Anyway, there’s my thoughts..they have some of it right..but they can’t fix what’s wrong with it unless they start thinking outside the bible.    ~moxie

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    David Hayward
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    It sounds like the kind of church they want the youth to be a part of is the “altar call” kind of church… that you only get saved and stay saved within the walls of the church. I think on one level the article is right, but the problem with the article is that any group… from cults to UFO Clubs or the Sierra Nevada Society or anything could say the same thing. You know?

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    Moxie I like what you have to say about thinking outside the Bible.  I’m famous for talking about how much clearer things got when I removed my God-colored glasses.

    The big issue I have with this is the whole Church vs The World concept they feed into kids.  I struggled with it when I was a believer and I still don’t get it now.   That’s a whole other topic I could go on about for hours.

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    I could go on for hours, too! Lol! I agree..the division created between church and the rest of the world basically shoots community in the face.

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    I think the author of that article is totally CLUELESS!

    I think the reason kids leave the church is because they don’t see and experience the REAL Gospel that Jesus preached and displayed to common, hurting people. These kids haven’t seen or felt the GOOD NEWS of radical, authentic grace played out within “church community.” All they have seen is the pretense, posturing, politics, and role-playing that is modeled by the leadership and expected of everyone who goes to that church. These kids don’t see unconditional love and grace extended to people who mess up or who are struggling. They understood all too well the set of unspoken rules which nobody dares question. They ARE smart! And they see that what passes for church is a huge sham! Why would they stay is a far better question than why are they leaving IMHO!!

    Personally, I’m glad they are leaving the church! If they stay, there isn’t much hope that they will do anything but become compliant, stagnant people, who  just perpetuate the same old crap the church has taught for what seems like forever! At least the kids who leave are smart enough to know that what the church is peddling isn’t authentic and it does NOT work. Leaving is the only hope for them to ever find God and discover their own authentic spiritual journey.

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    Jo got it right.  these folks are clueless.  These churches tried to be hip and stay culturally relevant, it didn’t work.  It’s not the medium, it’s the fundamental(ist) message.  Just trying to justify their existence now.  They will focus inward and make their doctrine even more stringent and go down with guns blazing.

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    I am repulsed by the list. As a parent, my kids look around at the posturing of people in churches and the fakery of niceness and want nothing to do with them. It doesn’t matter in our family what you “believe” or if you go to “church.”  What matters to us is, are you trustworthy? Are you kind? Do you have a sense of humor? Do you like art? Do you read? Do you like to eat and hang out? The whole evangelical message is bunk. There I said it. It’s a lie perpetuated by the people who run churches. (and those guys on tv.)

    “Leaving is the only hope for them to ever find God and discover their own authentic spiritual journey.”

    I’m with Jo and Vinny on this one.

    #9155
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    I didn’t think much of this article either.  If they think sitting on a wooden pew while the pastor preaches law and hell are going to keep kids in church – not gonna happen.  They got one thing right – kids got smarter.

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    The full weight of the law and how sinful they are is hardly likely to keep them in church…and is likely why they left in the first place….just sayin’

     

    God knows I get sick of hearing what a horrible, sin-filled person I am.

    I tried to talk about that ^^ with a friend of mine..and her comment was, effectively, that we need reminders of our sin condition or we forget how we have fallen away.  i said i don’t forget because others won’t let me.

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    Gary
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    Yeah no kidding Kathy-D.  I think what the author of the article is trying to say is we need to lay a huge guilt trip on them and hope to god they are gullible enough to believe we have the authority to do so.

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